Theological or Historical?

Actually I want to better clarify the title of this post: “Theological or Factually Historical?” No, no, no… better yet, “Theologically Canonical or Factually Historical & Widely Verified?” Yes, that is much better.

Agnotology. What is it? What does it mean? What is its significance to us today?

I think I can help you get a general, in-depth understanding of what agnotology is, what it means, and why it is very significant to us in the 21st-century and beyond. Just go to my 4-part series, Games of Unknowledging. However, if you are incredibly impatient with a lacking attention span, then here’s a simple quick definition of Agnotology:

But keep in mind my impatient followers and readers, that may not be enough.

For the purpose of this blog-post I want to distinguish the growing chasm between religion (Abrahamic religions especially) and historical fact that is verified and corroborated by the majority of scholars and experts in all the many, many scientific fields of human history.

Christianity Cracking, Crumbling, and Collapsing as a Truthful Faith

The most significant of these failures is the historical reality of widely diverse “Christianities” or denominations, today over 40,000 plus. The political process of deciding the New Testament canon over a 400–700 year period, known as Ecumenical Counsels of the Early Catholic Church (circa 4th-century) by their highest ranking Greek priests, Greek bishops, Greek archbishops, and Greek cardinals caused immeasurable amounts of ambiguity. The first counsel you may have heard about was the First Council of Nicaea from May to July of 325 CE. After the Nicene Council it was followed-up by no less than seven (7) more counsels all the way into 754–787 CE last at the Palace of Hieria near Constantinople of the Eastern Roman Empire. Why so many counsels to decide what theology was correct, was truthful, was divine revelation over 400+ years after Jesus’ death and then everything that was later found wrong? What were the many disagreements, fractures, mistakes, false testimonies of the nature of “Christ the Messiah?” The still present enigma of Christ’s nature begs the bigger question of What was all of the mass confusion among the earliest Christian followers? Let’s get some historically verified background.

From the table above we see the major problem of earliest Christianity in the 4th-century and 5th-century was:

  1. Divine Inspired Unity vs. Human (or Roman) Politics and Welfare — the traditional religious narrative suggests that Jesus established a single, clear doctrine passed down perfectly through his apostles. However, historical and archaeological discoveries—most notably the Nag Hammadi library found in 1945—proved that early Christianity was a chaotic web of competing groups with radically different beliefs about Jesus’ purpose.
  2. The “Orthodoxy” — the heavy indoctrination we know today did not naturally emerge as the sole truth; it was codified through centuries of intense political maneuvering, theological debates, and Roman Imperial intervention by Greek-Roman men.
  3. The Selection of Scripture Was Absolutely Political from the Start: The books of the New Testament were not bound together immediately after Jesus’s death. They were not tossed down from the heavens from God either. For the first few centuries after Jesus’ execution, different Christian sects used completely different gospels. The choice of which books to include (and which to burn or banish) into a codified Bible was a slow, human process finalized centuries later. Books like the Gospel of Thomas or the Gospel of Mary were rejected not because they lacked historical merit, but because their theology didn’t align with the specific authoritarian faction that eventually won political power.
  4. Imperial Intervention (The Council of Nicaea): In 325 CE, the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great—a political ruler, not a religious prophet—convened the Council of Nicaea. He did this because Christian infighting was threatening the stability of the Roman Empire. The council voted on foundational doctrines, such as the exact nature of Jesus’s divinity (the Arian controversy). This solidified the reality that modern Christian orthodoxy was heavily shaped by Roman statecraft, not Jesus’ reform movement.
  5. The “Synoptic Problem” and Textual Evolution: Textual criticism shows that the Gospels were not written by eyewitnesses as eyewitness accounts. They were written decades later (between 70 and 110 CE) by anonymous, Greek-speaking authors, not Mishnaic Hebrew-speaking Jews such as Jesus Christ. Furthermore, Matthew and Luke heavily copied from Mark and a lost source known as “Q,” changing details, theological emphasis, and even historical timelines to fit or retrofit their specific interests and audiences.

Ultimately, whether these facts “undermine” or dismantle Christendom as I think they do, it all depends on the individual faith-believer, not an All-knowing, All-present God and Son. For fundamentalists or Christian Nationalists today who require literal, historical inerrancy, these historical facts pose a severe challenge. For the progressive or mainline theologians, they simply show that God worked through the messy, complex reality of human history, a bit of a cop-out in my opinion. Why? Because if you collect the entire whole of everything related to Earliest Christianity up to the last seventh ecumenical counsel, which certainly includes Roman Empire recorded, extant history (of which they were obsessed with) and all Jewish literature such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Tannaim Period of Jewish rabbinic-sage literature—that does indeed still exist between 10–220 CE—and during the lifetime of Yeshua bar Yosef, or Jesus, they overwhelmingly show just how messy, erroneous, retro-fitted via hindsight to cover problematic (false?) theology of the new Roman Catholic Church, and how the person named Jesus or Iisoús in Koine Greek in the canonical New Testament, was in fact NOT the divine resurrected messiah the Roman Empire (via Greco-Roman tradition of Apotheosis) fabricated. For example, there were many, many regional pagan and Jewish historians of the time during Jesus’ lifetime or within less-than 100-years of his life that wrote NO INDEPEDENT RECORDS whatsoever of a “Jesus Christ.” That is damning of Christianity. Furthermore, within a century of Jesus’ life do any of these known authors/historians make any mention of the later twelve disciples or apostles. Who are they? They are:

So this begs the question, Why the literal hiding of such a supposed Lord and Savior for all humankind to the rest of the world? What’s the purpose of the cloak and dagger? The answer? There is none and it is very, very poor foresight for an All-knowing, All-present theological God.

The Stark Comparisons and Distinctions Within Christianity Then and Today

historical factChristian beliefhistorical reality
The New TestamentA divinely inspired, unchanging set of books.A curated collection from dozens of competing texts by early church leaders/men.
Early Church DoctrineA unified, universally agreed-upon faith.A fractured landscape of Gnostics, Marcionites, & Ebionites who fiercely disagreed on the nature of Jesus Christ.
Rise of Roman Orthodoxy post-320 CEThe Holy Spirit naturally guided the “true faith” to world victory.Roman Imperial enforcement outlawed, suppressed, and destroyed competing Christian sects.

To surmise, 1) the above table, 2) the lack of independent historical sources, 3) the widely diverse, disagreeing, sometimes fighting sects over the nature of who Jesus actually was from a Greco-Roman tradition, versus 4) the historical realities of the time-period between 63 BCE and 70 CE known as the Jewish Late Second Temple Period, all show as a whole that 5) the roots of earliest Christianity (i.e. The Way Movement) through the end of the Seven Ecumenical Counsels in 787 CE reveal at best Christianity’s flimsy foundation. At worst it clearly reveals no unified theology, doctrine, or orthodoxy of practices or faith. Why?

Plain and simply, the vast chasm that existed between imperial Greco-Roman (Hellenistic-Herodian) traditions, language (Koine Greek), and culture was factually incompatible with Jesus’ beliefs, his Jewish background, he and his people’s Mishnaic Hebrew language that also included Syro-Aramaic at times, and their long established Jewish literature and traditions on who, what, and why the Jewish Messiah was to arrive for them.

Because of these deep chasms mentioned between two clashing, adversarial cultures—Roman Empire vs. Judaism—when the earliest Roman Catholic Church began to ascend, the rewritten, hijacked, edited, redacted, ambiguous, suppressive manmade orthodoxy of forming the Biblical canon over seven Roman counsels in a 300-400 year period was failing and failing bad, particularly after the siege and sacking of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE killing most Homeland Jews royally screwed any hope of total unity. As a result, the Christian canons became so heavily contaminated and contradictory later that it caused incessant confusion among all Christians then and to this day over a meager, simple 1st-century CE Jewish rabbi-reformer who failed to be the Jewish Messiah according to Jesus’ own people, then and today.

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8 thoughts on “Theological or Historical?”

  1. It wasn’t at first, I don’t think Lenny. Why? Because first of all, the new The Way Movement led by James the Brother of Jesus/Christ/Yeshua, Peter, and the other Hebrew followers/disciples in Jerusalem after the apparent execution of Yeshua by Rome, was in fact a very obscure, tiny group of Jewish reformers who increasingly despised the Temple Priests and Pharisees too close to Rome. This also included the outlier sect of Herodian Jews (spawned by or converted by King Herod’s version of tempering for peace). Saul of Tarsus, or Paul, was in all likelihood a Herodian Jew trained & educated by the schools of Hellenistic traditions steeped in Plato & Classical Greek culture. This would easily explain Paul’s many fallouts with The Way Movement and Homeland Jews at their synagogues.

    It also explains nicely WHY the eventual mass confusion of earliest Christians, and for the next 700+ years, particularly Gentile converts, who had knowledge in all the Greek/Pagan traditions (e.g. Apotheosis). This apriori knowledge helped spread Paul’s Epistles and testimonies/travels thus fattening the Christian homes and pews.

    It wasn’t until the destruction of the Jewish Temple (70 CE, then Masada in 74 CE) with most Homeland Jews familiar with The Way, deeply seeded in Messianic fervor of the recent past, were exterminated by the 3-5 Roman Legions fed-up with Jewish dissent and revolts. As a consequence, this was the petri dish that Greco-Roman Christianity (the false faith) took root and flourished by Paul, then the widely fabricated, unfounded versions of Greek religious traditions that did not coincide or align with Jesus’ Hebrew sect or his reforms, then failure to be the real Messiah to come. Therefore, the seven (7) Ecumenical Counsels. And they still haven’t gotten it right to this day.

    At this time, c. 320–787 CE well after the original The Way Movement charter members and first generation disciples were dead and gone, that is when you begin seeing the sanitizing of a ghastly Yahweh followed by Marcion and his Marcionites that the Early Roman Catholic Church despised and hated. It is at this time that the Greco-Roman Catholic Church Fathers began retrofitting, redacting, editing, omitting, and imagining wild theology, doctrines, and put into orthodoxy both in the Old Testament, but particularly so in the New Testament. If you notice too, aside from the Synoptic Gospels (then John) who or what disciple (“Apostle”) makes up the majority of Epistles/letters in the New Testament? 😉

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    • I was just wondering. It would seem logical to make the monstrous Jewish god more palatable if the intention was to grow a fledgling movement.
      Bundling the Tanakh with the Gospels, Acts and Epistles, then throwing in the Revelation seems kinda odd. Mixed messaging: genocidal upheavel to conciliation to nightmarish threat?

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  2. Political it was then, as it is to this day. It is simply all make believe.

    However, because humans do not like the idea they can be so easily conned they create scenarios to justify what is so obviously lies and fantasy – and the purveyors and protectors of Christianity(and all religion) have had centuries to master and polish the deception. It was and still is one giant grift.

    Surely if Trump can lie through his backside and blatantly con supposed intelligent, literate people who continue to cheer for him after less than a decade then the church would have no trouble making a monkey out of a mostly illiterate, subservient superstitious population?

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  3. I am not a religious scholar of any sort. I read the entire Bible when I was a kid, but it didn’t mean much to me. But I did wonder how a god could change from a warmonger to a peacenik? If s/he/it (shit?) was really perfection personified, was there even a reason or ability to change? I doubt it.

    So I was prepared to stop believing long before I found out belief is not fact, just someone else’s opinion. And I went on a lifelong journey to discover what I could about life and belief. That was the first step. The second step was finding out I did not have to believe, and the world started to make a bit more sense. Being of white/First Nations mixed blood, I had to figure out where I stood on belief. I eventually found out the only person I could believe was me. So I started to study me in depth, and that led me to the person I am today. As Ark said above, all religions, to which I would add philosophies, are con jobs. Religious leaders do not have to toil like other people do, they live off the avails of their suckers. (My apologies to any religious folk that read this, but I am only talking about me and what I learned in this lifetime. What you believe is up to you.)

    And in the end I decided to live as if life meant something, knowing all the while that, as Pete Townsend of The Who once wrote, “I won’t get to get what I’m after till the day I die!”* He later said that was just nonsense, he needed a line that summed up his song, but that does not change the truth of the matter. If I still have some kind of existence after my body and ego die, I will be somewhat prepared. If death is the end of life as most atheists believe, then nothing anyone does while alive matters. For me, understanding evolution tells me there is a purpose to life, which is what I now believe. There certainly is no paradise of any kind, nor is there any hellish scene. I could go on, but I have said enough by now. Life is the ONLY thing that matters to me. All else is just conjecture.

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  4. All very well stated rawgod and your lifelong journey explained. I like it! You merely followed a line of reason and logic and eventually ended up examining yourself in-depth. How many people in life actually do that with a high level of equity, objectivity by getting OUTSIDE of themself?

    “Life is the ONLY thing that matters to me. All else is just conjecture.”

    BRAVO rawgod, bravo! 👏👍🙂

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